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[Estéema]

Do you still allow your helper to go out on weekend? Mine still insist she wants to go out and argued that MOM did not state it is mandatory for them to stay at home.

Is your helper fr The Philippines? Anyway, get her to read MOM Advisory to Foreign Domestic Worker:-

https://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/press-r ... ic-workers

If she is out, she is not to congregate but just get her errands done quick & return home & if happen to meet frds & forget abt social distancing, “MOM will take action to disperse them as an added precaution. MOM will step up inspections on the ground. Workers who do not cooperate will have their work passes revoked.” There were WP cancelled for some alr.

[sky minecrafter]

OT:
Jec FB notice 03Apr, & petition contents...

I'm suspending lessons with an enrichment centre (not Jec) as well, but would have to be mindful that the centre may Not be around anymore after this suspension is lifted, so...

[zac's mum]

Tuition and enrichment centres are the real 破口.

I've been calling for tuition / enrichment centres' closure on other social media platforms, as I believe there might be some LOA and family members who could be infected in the coming days, if they have not already been. Some SHN folks have infected their parents and siblings. Only a matter of days LOA folks returned from their Mar vacays start to infect their family members.

It's not like it's the tuition centres fault, right? They were all caught unawares last night too. The govt didn't give them advance notice. If they say they're going to provide distance-learning or Zoom alternatives, then just wait for the ID or link by end Friday. The enrichment materials can be downloaded from their website.

But srsly zac's mom, why the hoo-ha still? Haven't they agreed to give discounts or refund to parents next-term? What else can they do? You just got to make do with whatever solutions they have offered. I can't even ask my parlour to refund my $300 nor enjoy a virtual food massage service, but you at least get 5 weeks of worksheets, video tutorials, supplementary notes, answer keys, marked compos in pdf and 2 hrs of e-coaching.

Isn't that acceptable in extreme times like now? SG tuition centres are not like those in HK and TW which are well-prepared with BCPs due to frequent typhoons. We should all the more be accommodating to our local tuition centres who are trying to their best to do all they can to help our kids. Most tuition centres are also worried about rental issues and rebates.

I've no issue how centres deliver their lessons. Zoom is very effective IMO. Not sure about BBB which you've asked in the other tuition thread. Have you even tried it yourself before? You can see the tutor and what she's writing on the worksheet, but you cannot see your other tuition mates, which is good because they won't get to wave at one another or msg among themselves while the tutor is teaching. You can hear everyone's Q&A though. It also protects the privacy of minors. I guess your centre wants all lessons to be logged on its own in-house platform so mgmt can monitor if their tutors are slacking or following the prescribed lesson outline.

Your foot reflex package will likely have its expiry date extended. Or even if not, the credits are still kept inside there to be redeemed whenever they re-open. They have not been ridiculously converted to virtual sessions unilaterally since they can’t operate physically & u are told to show up at those virtual sessions (At their masseuse’s own timing) take it or leave it. Credits will still be deducted if you don’t show up cos u can login to download the instruction guide & quiz after that.

Zoom is fantastic. Yes I’ve tried it. The in-house BBB on the other hand is total crap. No one can see each other at all, they can only community via texting in the chat box. Imagine all the stupid spammers. Tutor can give warning but she can’t kick them out. This week they “improved” it by enabling audio. Guess what, there’s so much white noise that the teacher’s voice is drowned out. And yup the spammers and conversing with each other via audio (AND text) and tutor still can’t kick them out.

It is not the tutors’ fault (their hands are tied) - it’s the management‘s fault. At $100 per lesson this is the total crap I get.

[tryyourbest.2]

Do you still allow your helper to go out on weekend? Mine still insist she wants to go out and argued that MOM did not state it is mandatory for them to stay at home.

Is your helper fr The Philippines? Anyway, get her to read MOM Advisory to Foreign Domestic Worker:-

https://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/press-r ... ic-workers

If she is out, she is not to congregate but just get her errands done quick & return home & if happen to meet frds & forget abt social distancing, “MOM will take action to disperse them as an added precaution. MOM will step up inspections on the ground. Workers who do not cooperate will have their work passes revoked.” There were WP cancelled for some alr.

Thanks Esteema. She is Philippino and I find that they are really quite stubborn. In fact, I already asked her to read this advisory from MOM and she can still say that it does not mean she cannot go out right. She also told me there are only 5 to 6 people in her usual clique of friends. Her friends’ employers allow them to go out too. You can imagine how tough it is trying to reason out with them. I hope MOM officers will do a good job in dispersing these helpers. I believe there are other employers who are in the same situation as me. If I can lock her up, I will but ...... sigh!

[zac's mum]

https://www.maskgowhere.gov.sg/

Each one entitled to one .. need nric or birth-cert to collect

[lee_yl]

Yesterday just announced Singapore Cricket Club as a new cluster, this morning one Covid patient from there passed on. That’s fast.

Lee Ah Mooi cluster also the same. Just announced as a new cluster, old folk there passed on already.

For the earlier cases, the old folks appear to survive longer inside ICU, even the Wuhan uncle also recovered. Either covid-19 virus had mutated or the old folks fell sick, became breathless or coughed until very jialak then got diagnosed?

Or for earlier cases, 10 doctors looked after 1 patients, but now, the doctors all overly stretched and were burnt out?

[Estéema]

Do you still allow your helper to go out on weekend? Mine still insist she wants to go out and argued that MOM did not state it is mandatory for them to stay at home.

Is your helper fr The Philippines? Anyway, get her to read MOM Advisory to Foreign Domestic Worker:-

https://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/press-r ... ic-workers

If she is out, she is not to congregate but just get her errands done quick & return home & if happen to meet frds & forget abt social distancing, “MOM will take action to disperse them as an added precaution. MOM will step up inspections on the ground. Workers who do not cooperate will have their work passes revoked.” There were WP cancelled for some alr.

Thanks Esteema. She is Philippino and I find that they are really quite stubborn. In fact, I already asked her to read this advisory from MOM and she can still say that it does not mean she cannot go out right. She also told me there are only 5 to 6 people in her usual clique of friends. Her friends’ employers allow them to go out too. You can imagine how tough it is trying to reason out with them. I hope MOM officers will do a good job in dispersing these helpers. I believe there are other employers who are in the same situation as me. If I can lock her up, I will but ...... sigh!

I empathize esp when dealing with the Pinos. I’ve been there. Plain frustrated. Got them threatening me instead. I’ve to learn to be tough with them overnight (not my character but hv to grow up to be tough to handle). It’s their usual ruse, yr helper will tell u other eyers also allow & their frds will tell their eyers same stores just to get their ‘freedom’. If u’re fortunate enuf to explain this is a life & death issue & SG govt here trying to protect ppl fr getting COVID, some will cooperate.

Those that will not u’stand yr instructions & do not cooperate, u’ve no choice but let them go with a warning tt once MOM finds them & they get their WP cancelled it is on record & they cannot come back to SG to find jobs. No more future approval of WP. Altho it’s my belief tt they will then cooperate (no matter how reluctantly to forgo their freedom to be happy with their frds) owise they face the fate of repatriation back to Philippines which is worse! Their own President Dutetere warm the Filipinos not to go out owise he gave orders to just “shoot”. Not my words.

If after presenting these serious orders fr both govts & she still insists, I’ll suggest u prepare to go w/o her. I’ve since moved on to other countries for more cooperate helpers. I just don’t want to be stressed by all their excuses, arguments & manipulation. Plain tired out by them & I can’t focus getting on with my family needs which is my priority.

All the best to you. Hope things work out.

[Estéema]

@ lee_yl I wld be on the same thinking that our medical team wld hv gotten more tired out. Some might be discouraged as colleagues catching the virus themselves fr constant over-exposure to the potent virus. Y’day when getting some o/s documents fr SGH for my late FIL, overheard staff conversation they’ve orders to take on 12-hour shifts. This is before LHL’s announcement for WFM & HBL for sch students till 4 May. I’m sure our medical professionals hv just as much family needs to settle whilst having to dedicate themselves to their increasing patients.

Hope the medical professionals reboot their spirit. I’m thinking of doing sth for them.

[phtthp]

Thanks Esteema.

She is Philippino and I find that they are really quite stubborn. In fact, I already asked her to read this advisory from MOM and she can still say that it does not mean she cannot go out right. She also told me there are only 5 to 6 people in her usual clique of friends. Her friends’ employers allow them to go out too. You can imagine how tough it is trying to reason out with them. I hope MOM officers will do a good job in dispersing these helpers. I believe there are other employers who are in the same situation as me. If I can lock her up, I will but ...... sigh!

I empathize esp when dealing with the Pinos. I’ve been there. Plain frustrated. Got them threatening me instead. I’ve to learn to be tough with them overnight (not my character but hv to grow up to be tough to handle). It’s their usual ruse, yr helper will tell u other eyers also allow & their frds will tell their eyers same stores just to get their ‘freedom’. If u’re fortunate enuf to explain this is a life & death issue & SG govt here trying to protect ppl fr getting COVID, some will cooperate.

Those that will not u’stand yr instructions & do not cooperate, u’ve no choice but let them go with a warning tt once MOM finds them & they get their WP cancelled it is on record & they cannot come back to SG to find jobs. No more future approval of WP. Altho it’s my belief tt they will then cooperate (no matter how reluctantly to forgo their freedom to be happy with their frds) owise they face the fate of repatriation back to Philippines which is worse! Their own President Dutetere warm the Filipinos not to go out owise he gave orders to just “shoot”. Not my words.

If after presenting these serious orders fr both govts & she still insists, I’ll suggest u prepare to go w/o her. I’ve since moved on to other countries for more cooperate helpers. I just don’t want to be stressed by all their excuses, arguments & manipulation. Plain tired out by them & I can’t focus getting on with my family needs which is my priority.

All the best to you. Hope things work out.

Yes, that's what their Philippines governor said to their own country quarantine violaters

https://www.rappler.com/nation/256705-d ... -violators

[chenlaoshi]

Pet shop selling pet food and optical shop will be opened. Just rushed to get supplies and was told they would be open next week. Not sure about Popular. Queued up to enter Popular to stock up on correction tape, pen refills and the art supplies few days ago. Only managed to grab 2 correction tape refill as out of stock!

How about popular book-shop ? Can open ? Not really considered as essential service like sell stationery or sell Assessment books ?

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