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borrower
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lender
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both
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none of the above
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auntieM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuses....family need to change car, send $ to China to build house, relative want to borrow for medical/school fees...

There are many other places one can secure a loan decently, without having to go to the loansharks. Even if you lend her the $, your friendship will be affected.

Juz me 2 cents
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MMM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fussyMummy wrote:
so.. what are those valid excuses.... Crying or Very sad


auntieM has some good examples. It must be something valid to your situation. Lost $ in stock mkt is good but provided you play shares and indeed you had lost some money that your good friend is aware of. It's difficult to lie so say something "truthful".

Met a friend whom I never seen for years. She started to keep in touch. Then one day, she asked to loan $ for her renovation as they were having some financial difficulties. In their case, they have problem getting a housing loan as the hubby seems to owe the banks credit card bills as he was only paying the minimum payment. To me, I felt that this is a sign of not being financially responsible.

She said she will return when they selll off their old flat. Though we were close during teenage years but that was donkey years ago, I am not sure sure if I can entrust someone to return thousands of dollars. In the end, told her that I am due to pay for the last amount of my renovation works soon which is true. So it's not possible for me to loan her.

But had another friend who lost her job when she returned from maternity leave. She was having some financial difficulties making ends meet. I did lend her but it was few hundreds. She returned to me when she found a perm job.
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winth
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Best Friend wants to borrow $$$ Reply with quote

fussyMummy wrote:
Hi All,

What will you do, if your best friend wants to borrow $$ from you, and he/she is verysure you have such amount inside your bank a/c...
Crying or Very sad


Not lending it at all will help secure this friendship when he/she gets over this rejection.

Lending it will cost you guys your friendship.
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KSP
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best excuse is to use your family ACE card.

Just say your DH will nag at you if you lend ppl $ bcos he has bad experience on that. You can also say this to your friend, "I'm sure you also won't want to see quarrel between me and my DH, right? If the amt is big, you can say the $ is under joint a/c and need DH signature.. blah.. blah... blah.

After hearing so much excuses, I think your friend will roughly know what you are trying to tell her.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy I know doesn't have a job at that point in time and couldn't stay long for each job.
Single and lives off his parents.

He wants to go for lasik and wants to borrow a few thousands.
Told him about the side effects and that he should try to save up that couple of thousands instead of borrowing, plus I feel it's not a reason I should empathise with.

He told me, 'Dun tell me all these reasons, you have the money?'
Replied, 'No', straight in his face. No reason required.

He still went ahead with the lasik with people's money though his relatives were telling to postpone cos he didn't even have savings or a job to start with, but he just said that he has made up his mind.

Sometimes, these people need wake-up calls.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
I lend money to my friend before. I've not heard from her for a long time and out of the blue she called. She told me that she needed the money to repay her father's gambling debt that the loansharks are swimming. She asked for $10k. As she is really an old friend and was a very good friend, I lent her $2k. But we agreed on date she has to pay me back. I told her I borrowed some money from my relatives to help her cos I've got a lot of committments and I don't have that much savings. She paid me back, but lesser - and exceeded the agreed date.

Then I found out that its actually her gambling debt that she is trying to pay off. Very sad case, she is addicted to mahjong! to this day, she still owe me $500, and I think she still have not kicked the addiction.

Find out the reason why your friend needs a loan. If you think this friend is reliable and that she geniunely needs your help, maybe you work out a plan for her to pay you back. But be prepared to not get the money back.
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KSP
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 things can happen after you lend your friend $

1. He disappear or try to avoid you. End of friendship
2. Tell you he does not have $ to repay and the friendship turn sour from there.

This is too common in real life.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2 cents worth from a personal experience. Lend only when you are prepared to loose the friendship. Not worth it in my opinion. I lost a friend because I 'fell' for her sob story. Like someone mentioned, promised to pay by a certain date, but dateline came and gone, no sign of money, chase and chase and in the end, managed to get back in bits and pieces over months, some portions were in coins! Result, friendship ended on last meeting.
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KSP
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparing between

1. Lose $ and then later on lose friend

and

2. Lose friend

.......... I will choose no. 2, lose 1 thing rather than 2.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSP wrote:
2 things can happen after you lend your friend $

1. He disappear or try to avoid you. End of friendship
2. Tell you he does not have $ to repay and the friendship turn sour from there.

This is too common in real life.


Can I please add a point...
3. Come up with another sob story soon enough to borrow somemore Razz
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